Sorry—uncertainty even in the title! 🙂
Hello,
TL;DR: Being a student and dealing with paperwork makes scanning things important sometimes.
RAMQ provides a scam software called OpenBook (even in 2026) and a Canon scanner (good enough for what it does).
I was having a discussion with Gemini a couple of days ago about whether something like the Pearl camera would still be useful in 2026. It told me, mid-conversation, something like: why buy a 10-year-old device when you already have one of the best scanners you could ever carry in your pocket, paired with your Mac? It knows I often use Windows on the Mac…
So I went down a rabbit hole on the topic.
In the meantime, completely unrelated, I’ve already received a MagSafe stand for recording/filming (Tonof 68). Very good for the price, well built, and it even has a detachable remote with a button that basically acts as volume up on one press and volume down on the other—clearly designed with the camera app in mind.
Gemini also mentioned ScanJig, which is apparently built specifically for this kind of scanning workflow. Apparently, Sam from The Blind Life has even covered it, and on their website, Seeing AI is listed among the apps it supports.
Problem: it costs $45 USD, but on Amazon Canada it’s over twice that—about $109 CAD. I don’t really see why I should pay that premium. I’ve emailed them to ask about it and am waiting for a response.
Does anyone here have recommendations for something that would fit this use case?
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The stand you have.
It might work. You might need another remote. This one will let you navigate your phone with Voiceover, so you just get on to the button that let's you can, and push the center button to activate.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08VF1VJRB
Alternatively, there was a thread about this a while back and somebody recommended a stand they were using, not sure if it was magsafe, but I think it was like a tripod thingy with an extended arm with the phone at the end. It was on scanning in general, I'll try to find it and the stand recommendation for you.
The thing the Scanjig does, and similar stands, I think there's at least one more, is give you a way to try to line the book/document up, something that might be harder with a more free-standing option. Well not just line it up, but make sure it's placed under the camera properly. The Scanjig isn't magsafe but the phone sits on top of it and I think once you figure out the alignment, you put guide things on either side of where the phone goes and put the phone between them and that makes sure it's lined up properly.
Found the thread.
https://www.applevis.com/forum/assistive-technology/looking-device-read-physical-books
The word budget is in the comment you want, they just give an Amazon link with a bit of a description. I figure you might find the entire thing more or less interesting.
@Khomus thank you but
The toneof 68 was bought for actually recording things more conveniantly, I just randomly mentioned it there.
I think the only think I really need is something that can properly align the paper so it's scanned well with the camera, something that's the whole point of scanjig to do. I'll see. I don't really need any remote control thing.
Re: Remote.
Sure. The only reason I suggested the remote is in case the software doesn't do automatic batch scanning, or you don't want to use it for whatever reason. In that case, you'd have to find the button and tap the phone each time you wanted to scan. I feel like a remote would be a bit easier, in that case.
I honestly don't know what scanning software exists for the phone, I need to dig into all of this and probably get a Scanjig to try it. I have the Pearl camera but I'm on Mac now and there's no driver that makes it work, that I know of. It does show up as a device if you plug it in but not as a camera/scanner that's usable.
I could run Openbook in a Windows VM I guess, but I haven't felt like messing with it all. I will say that Openbook's scanning is pretty good, I tried ABBY Finereader a few years back, when they were touting AI, and I didn't get any better OCR out of it than Openbook.
I know KNFB Reader, or whatever they're calling it now, exists for the phone, I bought it for Windows when it was on sale, and honestly, I wasn't too impressed, it seemed pretty clunky to use and either gave me equal or worse results compared to Openbook. Maybe it's better on the phone though. I know Voicedream Scanner exists, but I don't know if they're doing subscription or something like the reader.
If you end up trying this, let me know what your thoughts are, particularly on the software you end up trying/using. I'd be particularly interested in something that's useful for scanning books, as books, i.e. I'm not tearing them apart or whatever, since that's mostly what I'd be scanning. The Pearl is nice because it has motion detection for batch scanning, but I'd imagine most decent phone apps could handle this as well. Essentially that's what these stands are doing, turning your phone into a document camera, which is what the Pearl is, with a bit of modification to make it easier for us to line things up.
That's sort of my worry with the phone stuff, and the stand(s), I feel like when most people talk about "scanning documents", they're thinking of reading your mail or something. Absolutely useful and it had better be able to handle that, but I also need something that can deal with books, in their multiple sizes and shapes, and let me get them into various formats, RTF, plain text, whatever. I see a lot of stuff that wants to generate PDF files, which I'm not really a fan of.
No VoiceDreamScanner is good
The original dev still owns it and it's still a one time purchase as far as I know.
About windows and pearl, can't you just use it like a regular camera / scanner with other app than openbook and jaws own ocr? I thought it was detected as a generic thing after freedom scientific driver installed?
I still considr buying pearl sometimes, seems like one of those old but still perfectly fine hardware. A bit pricy but for $400, accessibility first design. Let me know if you or anybody else strongly recommend not doing it! Suggestions welcomed.
Re: PEARL.
It's supposed to, but I never got it working with KNFB Reader. To be fair though, I didn't really try that hard. It works great with Openbook. If you like Openbook and its results, I'd recommend it. But it's possible your phone and a scanning stand would do the same basic thing.
One thing I do like about Pearl is that they recommend strategies. For instance, suppose you have one of those wide hard cover books. First, you scan a page at a time by lining up the edge of the book for each page, so you do the left page by lining up that edge, then slide it over to line up the right edge with the right edge of the base of the camera. They recommend masking the other page with a blank piece of paper so you don't get extra stuff scanned.
I don't know what the Scanjig looks like, so I don't know if it can do that, although I guess if it's open on the front and back, then you could orient the book that way and slide it forward and backward. If it's not though, I feel like that would limit the size of books/documents you could scan with it.
I like the Pearl, but you are locked into Freedom Scientific for the most part, or whatever they're calling themselves these days. I wish the hardware was a bit more generic, in terms of being recognized, a class compliant device would be nice. So I can see some advantages to using a phone for this kind of thing. But I've also tried to outline some of the potential issues I can see with that.
But again, like I mentioned, I think Openbook gives pretty decent OCR results, I still haven't found anything better. Pearl and Openbook were what I was using until I switched to the Mac. I still have no idea what decent scanning software there is for Mac.
I haven't tried setting up Openbook in the VM yet because I probably need to upgrade my Mac, I'm running a base Mini M2, so only 8 GB of memory. Openbook would probably work, but I figure whenever I upgrade, everything will be better off, and I can just wait to install the stuff that might need more memory and speed.
I hate openbook
They charge $1000 for the most buggy commercial AT software in existence. It is so bad. Yes there is some ease of use in theory but this was true in the windows 7 era, they haven't kept up with windows 10, let alone 11. The print dialog is not accessible with jaws / openbook, I have to use nvda because at least its object navigation thing makes sense unlike jaws and its 10 cursors. Same for any system calls for open / save etc. There is so little that works! They can't even bother to keep the ocr component relatively up to date. It, is, a scam.
PS: I know you know this but for those who don't, this is not an attack on you or anybody using OB and finding it useful. Just a personal opinion. They don't even want to make this unofficial abandonware free!
Re: Openbook.
Oh sure. I'm only using it, or was, because like I said, I didn't find anything that gave better scan results the last time I checked. I already owned it, so I figured I might as well. For a while I actually uninstalled it and was using KNFB Reader, but I thought it wasn't doing that great, so I ended up reinstalling OB to see if it was any better, and it was.
I'd be quite happy to never use anything from FS again, unless I can get the Pearl working with something else because that does work pretty well. I didn't have the issues you're having but IMO they install *way* too much extra junk with their stuff, and having to call if you run out of activations is really annoying.
Have you tried turning off your screen reader/putting it to sleep and using OB's internal speech? I think that's what I used to do. Maybe that would get it working a bit better until you find another solution.
Former Openbook User
I started using Openbook when Windows 3.1 was new, and Openbook was made by Arkenstone. I have an old harddrive somewhere that probably has close to 1,000 books saved on it, and I used it more on other computers after that. I loved it at the time, and I used it until about 2010 or 2011, but at this point, I wouldn't install it if I got it for free.
First, as someone previously mentioned, the last new release was in the Windows 7 days. I don't have the hatrid that many do for Freedom Scientific/Vispero -- did anyone see that they are finally changing their name in their software? It only took 8 years. Anyway, I don't have the hatrid that many do for them but if they are still charging for Openbook, that's rediculous. This is coming from someone who is certified in both JAWS and NVDA and who still prefers JAWS for most things.
You can find OCR options that work just as well now for much less money. For my mail, I just use the OCR in JAWS. If I needed something more robust, I would probably buy Abbyy Finereader. I've heard that it's accessible and works well. If I didn't want to spend that much, there's a version of Docuscan still floating around out there that you can subscribe to. I'm not sure how well it works though.