OpenAI live stream discussion

By Gokul, 13 May, 2024

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Those of you who have watched the live stream, do come over and let's talk about how incredible the demo seemed. And also about how much of it would translate into actual usable stuff. And also what this means for accessibility and Assistive AI if I may. And those of you who haven't, do go watch the stream. it's incredible! (in all caps)

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By Brad on Tuesday, May 14, 2024 - 18:23

Yeah, I thought that might be the case.

So I'd need to pay if I wanted to use the seeing version of chat gpt with the voices, that makes sense, I'll delete this account then as it won't have any use for me.

Man, this will be the third account I remove from this survice, i'm surprised they let me make them, oh well, I don't mind; this stuff will come to an app soon that isn't gpt.

By Brad on Tuesday, May 14, 2024 - 18:28

Here's a webpage snipet: What features are available today from GPT-4o?
For now what you’ll get when you sign in to ChatGPT is access to the chat version of GPT-4o, not any of the more advanced voice or video functionality as that is “gradually rolling out” over the coming weeks starting with Plus and Team accounts.

So yeah for me, I think I'll delete my account and wait for it to come to apps.

By Andy Lane on Tuesday, May 14, 2024 - 18:32

As Brad said, you just get the text box and the ability to use the 4O AI. You are also rate limited to 1/5 of a paid account if you switched to a free account.

By Andy Lane on Tuesday, May 14, 2024 - 18:39

Sorry but I can’t. I only had the magical phone for a day. I don’t have access to this version anymore. As soon as I do though I’d be happy to.

By Karok on Tuesday, May 14, 2024 - 19:32

how long is "roling out over the coming weeks" i'd have thought it would be out now for paid subscribers using chat gpt

By Stephen on Tuesday, May 14, 2024 - 19:32

I am so impatient, waiting for this!

By Andy Lane on Tuesday, May 14, 2024 - 20:51

I’m so calling mine Samantha. Along with about a billion other people. Wow, I didn’t think to try and make her laugh. I wish I had.

By Gokul on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 - 00:59

the way she laughs. Slightly spooky!

By Tyler on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 - 02:26

Member of the AppleVis Editorial Team

I just hope the expressive/emotive voice can be easily toned down, as I'd imagine, for me at least, that the experience of interacting with an AI tool that mimics human social and emotional behaviors could become quite fatiguing over time. The fatigue may be especially profound when attempting to complete basic or mundane tasks, which is my primary use case for voice assistants at this point.

By Louise on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 - 03:09

I have a voice mode in my Chat GPT Plus, but I don't seem to have this magic vision thing.

Also, when I use the voice mode, it appears to hear the TV and any other voices around me, and responds to those.
My last issue is that when I finish any kind of voice chat, it goes into a rating screen, and there's no way out except to kill the app and restart. I must be doing something wrong.

By Brian on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 - 03:43

If they add a sexy Australian female voice, i will be sold.

Fact. 😆

By Stephen on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 - 04:09

It seems I don’t have the voice mode anymore, even though I’m on premium. Interesting. Hopefully they’re updating my account?

By Brad on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 - 04:29

The voice still sounds... I don't know the word, tinny isn't it but ther's a buzz there, if they can get rid of that that would be amazing!

I'm sure for those that want it you'll be able to tone it down, you'll probably have to explain that you'd like it to tell you stuff with limited emotion, but don't sound bored.

I'm looking forward to this in an app.

I had a chat gpt account... or 3, but deleted them as I didn't think I'd use them that much so hope this comes to a navigation app in the future.

Oh by the way, I really don't like open AIs policy where once you've deleted an account you actually can't use the same email address to sign up again in the future, something feels illegal there but i'm sure it's not. It is, however, frustrating.

By Stephen on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 - 04:30

I told you I went down the rabbit hole lol.

By Falco on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 - 05:21

Same here: premium and no voice mode anymore.

By Gokul on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 - 06:29

If you're doing something wrong, I too am making the same mistake. It's the same situation with me.
Is there any way to get this premium mode for paid subscribers? or do we wait?

By Brad on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 - 07:06

You youngens, no patience. Why back in my day...

By Falco on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 - 07:17

Indeed, I yesterday updated my ChatGPT app and now I have no "voice mode" available.

By Falco on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 - 08:36

Hi,

The voice mode is back but since I speak Dutch, I notice that the name of the buttons like "voice mode" and "send" are now translated into Dutch... Also the interface of the chat window is more accessible in general.

By Scott Davert on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 - 13:33

Member of the AppleVis Editorial Team

Wow, that's quite an impressive demo! Thank you for sharing it with us! Do you know, by chance, if the Be My Eyes app will support this through some kind of text output? I have no issue speaking into my phone if I must, but being able to here the speech is another story. Again, thanks for sharing this with the AppleVis community! I also understand if you may not have noticed, it's an entirely different consideration and use case from what you were doing, but I thought I'd ask.

By SSWFTW on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 - 14:02

When do you think this, more specifically the voice chat feature will be available 2 plus subscribers. I myself do not have an account but would seriously consider subscribing to the Plus model

By Andy Lane on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 - 14:38

Hi Scott, you are very welcome As for the UI, nothing has yet been discussed as the API still isn’t available. In the coming days and weeks I may be asking for ideas and wishes that the community would like considered in the design of the new UI as I think its important to have blind peoples voices heard as a product for blind people is being designed.

By Andy Lane on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 - 14:40

Hi, Open AI said it will be rolling out in the next few weeks to plus subscribers. I haven’t got it yet and as far as I know, nobody else has either.

By Quinton Williams on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 - 14:48

In the email yesterday, it said a small group of trusted partners would be getting access first.
I hope and assume be my eyes is one of these partners?
This thing really does have me so excited!

By Saqib on Thursday, May 16, 2024 - 06:12

Yeah, this is truly incredible technologies. Our team is hard at work seeing how we can bring this to the community, and how to make the experience even better! 😊

By Stephen on Thursday, May 16, 2024 - 17:30

The weight is killing me!

By Quinton Williams on Thursday, May 16, 2024 - 17:32

If it helps any (which I know it doesn't), you're not alone in this.
I want so badly to have access to this!

By Stephen on Thursday, May 16, 2024 - 19:59

How about we just call it AI. No need to make a mountain out of molehills. What are we trying to do, cancel open AI? Omg.

By Stephen on Thursday, May 16, 2024 - 20:05

not only that, but you can also change the voices on any sort of Text to Speech. You know what, this conversation is getting ridiculous. I’m out of it. 😂 🤣

By AppleVis on Thursday, May 16, 2024 - 21:06

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By Bruce Harrell on Thursday, May 16, 2024 - 21:36

Whatever the oncoming AI in your device might be and do, it will be more and do better over time, based on what you do and on what you instruct it to do. AI learns. Your own AI probably won't tell you what it learns, but you will be able to tell based on what your own device's AI does.

Down the road a ways, I wonder how many people will still be alive.

By Tori on Thursday, May 16, 2024 - 23:26

Thats truly awesome stuff. Life-changing for so many of us. I will no longer have to feel if my dog is sitting or not, I would be able to walk around the shops and look at shop prices, etc. I don’t even care if I have to pay for it, it would be worthwhile

By Brian on Friday, May 17, 2024 - 01:10

While this is all very fascinating, and I, too, am excited to see where AI and technology, in general, takes us, might I suggest that we all take a step back and let the programmers, engineers, and designers take their time in working out all the nooks and crannies of potential failure; so that we, the consumer, can have a wonderfully innovative, life fulfilling, and ultimately joyfully engaging experience with our new AI companions?

Ya know, rather than the tired and true new software every year that is full of plot twists and pot holes, that Apple has become synonymous with?

Just a thought. 🙂

By Gokul on Friday, May 17, 2024 - 09:28

While I absolutely agree with you there, I think it's also important to keep constantly engaging with the techies so that, 1: they realise how life-altering this kind of thing is for the community, thereby aligning product development that way, and 2: an experiencial perspective is incorporated so that we get a practically usable product rather than some fancy thing which is of no day-to-day value.

By Brad on Friday, May 17, 2024 - 11:31

I think someone else was talking about how it might become a thing, I'd not mind that if the chat gpt4o stuff is included.

By Devin Prater on Friday, May 17, 2024 - 13:56

So, just imagine: ChatGPT gets a mode where you can share your screen to it, and you're playing retro games on your phone, through emulators like Delta or Retroarch. So, you start the game, like Final Fantasy 6, and then share your screen it to ChatGPT. It tells you what menu options you're on, describes scenes, and tells you how to get to objects. Reads dialog and everything.

Or, your watching old TV shows that won't get audio description, like Dark Shadows from the late 60's. No, I'm not that old but my grandma got me into it. And I think it's on Tooby TV. Anyway, you may have to tell it to use brief descriptions, but I imagine it could easily do it. Or maybe you're watching a Youtube video about old game consoles from Modern Vintage Gamer. GPT could easily describe the consoles, snippets of gameplay, all that.

Or, let's say it comes to Windows! Do you have a pair of headphones, like the Corsair gaming headphones that has a mostly inaccessible app? Just share your screen, tab around, and it'll tell you what you're on! Just some ideas, of course.

By Stephen on Friday, May 17, 2024 - 15:12

Am I the only one who has been incessantly checking the chat gpt app seeing if my account was updated yet? lol!

By Karok on Friday, May 17, 2024 - 15:57

so it should be out then?

when i go to upgrade to plus, I get:

Access to GPT-4, GPT-4o, GPT-3.5
that will be very missleading. you'd have thought it would have been in their app like now lol, and other apps like seeing Ai, be my eyes will have to implement there own model of it, also, i noted that when the OPEN AI video channel showed someone today pointing at objects and asking what they are in Spanish, it wasn't the same voice. why would i pay, just to get it, if it's going free? if i subscribe today, right now, does that mean in theory i should have it?

By Karok on Friday, May 17, 2024 - 16:18

hello, so when you go in the popup menu when in a chat, you can as a paid member select now: CHAT GPT 4 point 0, and i spelt it out for you, chat Gpt 3,5 and the new 4O, but what happens in 4O as the new voice and the images are not there etc. so how do we know when we have it? if you can use 4 and the letter o, chat gpt not 4 point and the number 0 but having both options, shouldn't the 4 letter o version let you use the images and speak directly to the Ai, as nothing is changing.

By Stephen on Friday, May 17, 2024 - 16:30

It’s coming in the coming weeks. You have access to the text, but not the video invoice features yet.

By Andy Lane on Friday, May 17, 2024 - 20:07

I’ve felt exactly the same for the last couple of weeks. I think Open AI had an iPhone moment and the world changed a little bit but I don’t think it’s going to be the same again. The iPhone changed everything and I think having non human intelligence thats this usable and approachable changes everything too. I really wish I still had that phone lol. To start with this is likely to be a mixture of novelty and tool for us but over time I think it just gets woven deeper into our lives, our culture and everything else. Once non human intelligence is this human, how can anything be the same?

By Andy Lane on Friday, May 17, 2024 - 20:43

Yep, I’m fine. I wasn’t even aware that was going on. I’d be interested to know what they were saying. I don’t use Mastodon. Well I have an account but I kind of stopped using social media when twitter went bad and didn’t make the switch. Maybe I’ll check it out tomorrow. Thanks for defending my honour. Did you challenge any of them to a dual? I so need a blind dual to happen. I’ll referee.

By Karok on Friday, May 17, 2024 - 21:49

hi i asked gpt plus when will the voice and imaging features be available, and i got this when asked how will i know? The new video, voice, and image features for ChatGPT are being gradually rolled out. Initially, Plus and Enterprise users will gain access over the next two weeks. If you are a Plus user, you can check for these features by going to Settings → New Features on the mobile app and opting in. If you don’t see the features immediately, they should become available soon as the rollout progresses. For more details, visit the OpenAI blog.

By Stephen on Friday, May 17, 2024 - 22:13

It lied to you. There is no new features under settings lol.

By Winter Roses on Saturday, May 18, 2024 - 01:17

Wait, can someone please clarify this for me? So, if we want videos to be described on YouTube, in theory, would we share the screen with the artificial intelligence, or would we copy and paste the link? I actually tried this with Google Gemini, and it was able to give me a brief overview of the video if I posted the link. I was able to get an overview of the video, as well as scenes, outfit changes, background, and any text elements on screen. Of course, I had to ask the right questions in order to get the answers. Also, there were a few videos that I tried to be described, but it told me that it contains sensitive material, or that there was no metadata for it to tell me what was in the video, so I'm guessing that there were captions that the artificial intelligence couldn't read. Or, maybe they were not included. Either way, the potential is there, but it's not quite up to standards as yet.
I have some of the text features now. I also see a list of generators created by the chatGPT team, but it's not working as yet. I can also attach files and access memory across the conversations.

By Brian on Saturday, May 18, 2024 - 02:00

It is absolutely acceptable to hype up new technology through advertising, and word of mouuth. I was more referring to the plethora of replies in this thread that can be summed up in 3 words; "Gimme, gimme, gimme!!"