Accessibility on Modern IOS vs Google Pixel

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Google's Lookout (with its Images Mode) or Seeing AI (with its Person Mode under More), should do nicely!

Both have that feature where the camera speaks how close you are to someone.

Open Camera? I never gotten that feature to work with said application myself.

I am still glad I switched to the Pixel from the Galaxy. I haven't experienced these bugs, and the experience has been quite positive. Obviously I don't have a newer galaxy to compare to, but talkback is snappier on the Pixel than it is on the S22 Ultra.

While I have yet to find a review on the Nothing 3 from a blindness perspective, all of the regular reviews I've checked out on YouTube lead me to believe that Nothing 2, circa 2023, is actually a better overall device than the newer Nothing 3.
with that, it seems that Samsung is the obvious choice here. I wish we had access to some of the European models though. Then again, I have no idea how well the accessibility works with those particular models. 😬

That is what I've heard. if you get a flagship nothing phone, it gets more software updates, I think seven versus four. One thing I like about the pixel is all pixel models, I think beyond the seven or eight, I don't remember, they all get seven years of software updates. samsung's s-series beyond the s24 also get seven yeras of software updates. I'm glad Android is catching up to iPhones in terms of software update policies.

That is what I've heard. if you get a flagship nothing phone, it gets more software updates, I think seven versus four. One thing I like about the pixel is all pixel models, I think beyond the seven or eight, I don't remember, they all get seven years of software updates. samsung's s-series beyond the s24 also get seven yeras of software updates. I'm glad Android is catching up to iPhones in terms of software update policies.

My partner upgraded from a Samsung S10+ to a Pixel 10 Pro and finished setting it up last night. I was playing around with it a little bit.

It is much faster than his old S10+. But I tried typing on the keyboard in a Discord message to myself, and it wouldn't read the keyboard (I will go in and double check if my bf is using Gboard, I believe he used Swiftkey previously and that worked fine with TalkBack). So, couldn't type. I also tried explore-by-touch to the bottom bar with recents, home etc and TB wouldn't read it out. Like, it would kinda just... freeze when it came to that section, but the settings menu I was playing with was functioning okay.

I won't install CSR since it's not my phone and I believe TB works fine for just about everything (I am too scared to try logging into our bank account because I locked my bf out of entering a PIN because I didn't realise I was typing it incorrectly, there was no audio or haptic feedback. This was on his old phone, though)

So yeah, just a quick play around and I'll more than likely end up playing with it some more. However, I probably won't switch - I swear by AirTags, and use Find My for sometimes tracking friends and parents, and iMessage for groups and messaging my friends (we're all vision impaired and use iPhone). Also like my Apple Watch when Siri wants to work (which is almost never). I do feel more comfortable and efficient with iPhone, too. Even when I tried Android as a low vision person previously, I found myself going back to iPhone.

When I finally get around to it, I think I will go into my local cellular provider, and spend an hour or more just playing around with a Pixel and probably a Samsung device as well. I'm sure the sales folks are gonna hate me, but when it comes to accessibility, try before you buy should be law. Lol

I definitely agree, and I think that's the best option. Curious to hear your experiences.

So I'm wondering what was up there, because while I don't prefer it, I can confirm I was able to type on gboard doing Pixel setup. Also, I don't use navigation bar, but prefer the gestures, and those work well, and I see no reason the nav bar shouldn't, but definitely odd. Everyone's experience will vary, but definitely makes me wonder what in the world was going on. I much prefer the talkback Braille keyboard to gBoard, but I can say gBoard does work.

Hi all,
I am back and using an iPhone. Even though I'm using the 2022 SE, it feels leaps and bounds faster than my pixel 9A. apps open faster than the pixel, braille things are more stable than when I left them when I switched... besides battery life, the iPhone does feel smoother and more stable than when I left it.

Love my SE 2022. 😘

https://accessibleandroid.com/vivo-x300-review/

I had that phone and it was a good one. A bit small for my liking, and battery wasn't enough to get me through the day, but I do a lot on my phone. Youtube, facebook, messages, music, etc. But VoiceOver performance was good. Honestly, since I made the switch to Android last year, I don't regret it at all. But I do understand milage may vary.
As for Galaxy vs Pixel, there are things I like about both, and wish I could find a way to get the best of both worlds. For example, I love Guided Frame. It is every bit as awesome as advertised. What I'm not a huge fan of though is the pixel's default phone app. Here Samsung wins hands down. Why? Because on the pixel, yes, you can get it to show your favorite contacts first, but there are no buttons to quickly call, no talkback actions, nada. You first have to tap on the person's name, then tap call. It's a phone app people, so you would think it should be obvious that if you tap them, odds are you are trying to call. If you want that to bring up their contact card, fine, but give us a quick call button or something. With Samsung you get faster calling without having to mess with so many screens. On the recent calls screen, you can have it show you favorites first, and there it does have a quick call button, but if they're not in your recent calls, you have to move to contacts, find the person, tap their name, then tap call. Google removed the favorites tab that used to be there that would give you the behavior I described in the Samsung phone app. Change for the sake of change alone and utterly stupid in my opinion. With Samsung you get a bit more customization. Another pixel plus though is battery life. It usually gets me through a whole day no problem. I'd usually have to top up the S22 Ultra, even though that phone had a battery replacement shortly before I got it, and has a bigger battery than the Pixel 10 Pro over all. But the Pixel gets me all the way through.

, which does have an AppleVis entry here:

https://applevis.com/apps/ios/photo-video/black-lens

, recently did get an update to version 2.0 this last February.

Still 2.00 USD, though worth it really. Of course, I haven't tried it myself since I currently don't have an iDevice.
Mainly sharing
that it's still kicking in the app store.

That was a really good review. That device actually sounds promising. 😊

Sounds like a pretty good device. Enjoy. :)

The only thing that bothers me about Pixel's, or any android phones really is the response time from when you touch the screen to when talkback registers it. This exists even in the high end android phones. There is some technical reason why, but it's just how talk back works. You do get used to it after a while, but it's definitely annoying paying so much for these devices, and having what feels like lag, when sighted people can just snap around the phone super quick. Talk back has gotten some new features that are pretty cool though. Right now I have an iPhone, and I also have a Samsung tablet. I've learned that I just can't deal with Android on a main device. Android is cool to mess around with, and I like how open it is, and I can just copy and paste video files and music onto it easily from a PC. Having micro SD slots was cool too, but most of the phone manufacturers don't include this anymore for whatever reason. iPhone is just better for getting work done and being productive.

This of course is pretty subjective, as something that drives one person crazy won't bother another at all. I will say, you may be missing out on some goodies if using a samsung tablet, as their version of talkback is always behind. This has already been covered in this and several other threads on this site. Unless you force Google's version on, you are missing some of the latest updates that have helped reduce latency even more, and honestly, it's to the point now where I feel like Talkback is a lot more snappy and the latency doesn't bother me.

For me, it wasn't talkback's lag that bothered me, but when I switched to iOS, it felt infinitely more responsive. My big thing was braille display stuf. you don't have braille access on android, you don't have the choose app thing where you can either use braille screen input or your braille display, but some of the really frustrating things were the lack of ability to perform basic android commands while a keyboard is open with a braille display. Even if I use contracted braille, I can't turn speech on or off, I can't use the rotor, I can't do all sorts of stuff on it. it is super annoying. not only that, but the limitations of how long a chunk of text can be, is straight up unacceptable. after 15000-20000 characters, the phone literally starts to lag, and beyond 30000-40000 characters? It becomes a turtle. My current novel I'm working on in total is 167000 characters. The only way I'm able to get around it is to split the files up, which is fine for organizational purposes, but one of my chapters is over 60000 characters long alone! So.... that's part of my take with the phone too.

Lol Subject line says it all. I've never, nor would I ever, want to write anything that long on a phone. I honestly wouldn't even on the computer, but writing isn't my thing. I can see how this would be problematic for you. I can't imagine it being much better with VoiceOver and the focus bugs that have existed, but if it works better for you, then awesome.

iOS actually works really well with it. in iOS 26 and 26.1, the cursor routing and all that was pretty buggy and unstable. but apparently, in the four months I didn't have an iPhone, they fixed my biggest issues. And yeah, iOS loads any of those chapters like, "Hold my beer."

I actually did remove Samsung's version of talk back, and installed the play store version a while ago, and aside from some newer features, the input delay still exists. I've had flagship android devices in the past, and that input delay was always there. Maybe if I didn't get so used to iOS before switching to android, I wouldn't notice it as much. I've tried other screen readers on android like jieshuo, and that one is way more responsive than talk back for me, but I still prefer talk back's gestures and features.

Agreed. Jishuo is really responsive, but I don't really like the gestures, and was unwilling to pay just to be able to fully edit them, plus I love the Talkback Braille keyboard. I've heard SoftBraille Keyboard has been updated, and I was using that thing long before Google ever thought about making a Braille keyboard, and SBK does have a few tempting features, like having tts language change when typing in a different language, which when you need to do that is really nice, rather than having English Eloquence butcher whatever language you are typing in, but the thing I never liked was having to turn Talkback on and off all the time. I have gotten to the point where I don't even notice the lag anymore.